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May 17, 2011

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 Dan Schoenholz

Theme: 4 kg, slangily - The theme entries have homophonic endings, phonetically KEY.

20A. Built like George on "Seinfeld" : SHORT AND STOCKY. George.

33A. Three-term New York governor : GEORGE PATAKI. He might be a Presidential candidate yet.

43A. Sport played on 58-Downs : ROLLER HOCKEY

59A. Coors Field player : COLORADO ROCKIE. Major League Baseball team based in Denver.

Argyle here. A notch harder than yesterday but rather bland, theme-wise. Not much else to say. Our constructor had a LAT Sunday puzzle aways back.

Across:

1. Half a '60s pop quartet : MAMAS

6. Trail mix : GORP. The name may have been derived from the basic mix of "Good Old Raisons and Peanuts.

10. Messes (with) : TOYS

14. Precise : EXACT

15. Roman love god : AMOR

16. "... pretty maids all in __" : A ROW. From the nursery rhyme: Mary, Mary, quite contrary,
How does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockleshells,
And pretty maids all in a row.

17. Formal rulings : DICTA. Plural of DICTUM, in legal use, a judge's expression of opinion which is not the formal resolution of a case. This should have been in Lemonade's puzzle.

18. It's usually returned after ordering : MENU

19. Irene of "Fame" : CARA Here. Cara lives in Florida and works with her band Hot Caramel. Song clips.

23. Fed. disease research org. : NIH. National Institutes of Health.

24. Mediocre : SO-SO

25. Golfer's concern : LIE

26. Noun modifier: Abbr. : ADJ.. Adjective.

29. "The Matrix" hero : NEO. Keanu Reeves.

31. "Absolutely!" : "INDEED!"

37. One-named Irish singer : ENYA

38. Kwik-E-Mart guy on "The Simpsons" : APU

39. Beef-and-veggies concoction : STEW

48. Opt not to be a state of the Union : SECEDE

51. "Lil'" rapper : KIM

52. Corrida cry : ¡OLÉ!

53. Script or text ending : URE. Scripture and texture.

54. Comply : OBEY

57. One of a matching pair : HIS

64. Hurried : HIED

65. Adidas rival : NIKE

66. Country star Travis : RANDY. Diggin Up Bones(3:06)

68. 43,560 square feet : ACRE

69. Change for a five : ONES

70. Mink cousin : OTTER

71. "Survey __ ...": game show phrase : SAYS. From "The Family Feud".

72. Tammany Hall cartoonist Thomas : NAST

73. Bright signs : NEONS

Down:

1. T-shirt size: Abbr. : MED.

2. Allies' opposition : AXIS. WW II.

3. Speed ratio : MACH. Here, if you need to know more. The Mach number is named after Austrian physicist and philosopher Ernst Mach.

4. Heed, as advice : ACTON

5. Transfixed : STARING. This seems a little off.

6. Lisbon's Vasco da __ Bridge : GAMA. Rather impressive sight.

7. Portents : OMENS

8. Sonata's last movement, perhaps : RONDO

9. Frederick the Great's realm : PRUSSIA. Map.

10. Tijuana treat : TACO. Ok, I'll admit TACO was not my first thought.

11. Prophet at Delphi : ORACLE

12. Terrier type, familiarly : YORKIE. An extra KEY ending. Yorkshire Terrier, Aww!

13. Went back and forth : SWAYED

21. You, way back when : THEE

22. Honky-__ : TONK

26. Grow up : AGE

27. Home computer site : DEN

28. Elation : JOY

30. October birthstone : OPAL

32. Computer insert : DISC

34. Bloody at the steakhouse : RARE

35. Goon : APE

36. The NBA's Mehmet Okur, e.g. : TURK. This center-forward is 6' 11".

40. Decision when the ref stops the fight : TKO. Technical KnockOut.

41. Snaky fish : EEL

42. Ex follower : WYE. Just the letters, X and Y, spelled out.

44. Polecat's defense : ODOR

45. It borders Israel to the north : LEBANON

46. Sunshine cracker : HI HO. You can taste the difference!

47. Pi preceder : OMICRON. Greek. Small "O" but it has both upper and lower case. Large "O" is Omega. They represent different sounds.

48. For example : SUCH AS

49. Beethoven's Third : EROICA. Symphony; Italian for "heroic".

50. Bloody Mary stalk : CELERY

55. Twin Cities suburb : EDINA. Map. SW of Minneapolis and St. Paul.

56. Joins, as oxen : YOKEs. These guys don't look too thrilled about it.

58. Enjoy the ice : SKATE. No ice involved with ROLLER HOCKEY though.

60. Poems sometimes beginning with "To a" : ODEs

61. Take a break : REST

62. "He's Just Not That __ You": 2009 film : INTO. Ben Affleck. Jennifer Aniston.

63. Garden site : EDEN

67. 12-mo. periods : YRs


Here is a lovely photo of JD's adorable grandsons. From left to right: Grady 1 1/2, Cameron 10 months, & Truman 3 1/2. Here is the one we showed last July. From left to right: Grady 11 months, Truman 3 & Cameron (2 weeks).

Argyle

94 comments:

Dennis said...

Good morning, Argyle, C.C. and gang - I liked this one right from the start with the clue for one of my favorite groups, the Mamas and the Papas. Not a speed run, but I did get through without outside help. Thought the theme was less than stellar, and I kept thinking there was more to it than just the phonetic 'key' ending.

Did anyone else immediately think of 'short and stocky' when they read the clue for 20A? 'Trail mix' isn't exactly up there on my list of favorite foods, but 'gorp' came out of somewhere. I agree with Argyle -- 'taco' wasn't my first thought for 'Tijuana treat'. Other than those, not much interesting to talk about. Argyle, enjoyed the write-up; my hat's off to you for the consistency you provide each week. How long's it been now?

Today is Pack Rat Day. Guilty.

Did You Know?:

- The international corporation set up by Saddam Hussein to launder money from his various enterprises was called Montana Management -- after Tony Montana, the character Al Pacino portrayed in Scarface.

Barry G. said...

"A notch harder than yesterday but rather bland, theme-wise. Not much else to say."

Yep, what he said. ^_^

Although I will add a little snark and ask... on what planet is ROCKIE (as opposed to rocky) considered the singular of rockies? In the world of sports, I presume, but still...

Dennis said...

Barry, somewhat the same in Philly, where each baseball player is a Phillie.

Lemonade714 said...

Argyle, you really have become the king of writing up these early week puzzles, which are fun but not inspirational. Thanks for many entertaining links, and JD the pics are great.

As you say in your write up, DICTA is the not formal opinion of a judge, or judicial panel. The clue is incorrect, as it is the stuff the judge says that does not have to be followed by future courts. There is holding, which is binding on future courts, and dicta which is not. I won't bore you with stare decisis but it is the basis of American Jurisprudence.

Anyway, I put in GORP but did not know why, thanks, and RONDO took longer than it should, but it is done, on to Wednesday. Great weather here, high 60's at night. Take care all.

Dodo, thank you for the kind words on my sons, Aaron is standing up and has the darker hair, Devin does get blond when he is in the sun. Benjamin and Mia are amazing, I had them together; quite the armful.

Tinbeni said...

Argyle, Excellent write-up !!!

ROLLER HOCKEY players do-NOT "Enjoy the ice" so that ref. at 43-A to the 58-D clue was lame.

OPAL being the October birth-stone and EDINA a Twin Cities suburb I learned from crosswords long ago.

Fave was the THEE for "You, way back when" ... at first I put in 'teen', easy fix.

Cheers to all at sunset !!!

Hahtoolah said...

Good Morning, Argyle and friends. This wasn't one of my favorite Tuesday puzzles, but it was doable without outside.

As already noted, DICTA are not a formal rulings, but rather judicial opinions. I was, therefore, reluctant to fill in this word for the clue, but the perps convinced me it was the "right" answer.

GORP was also a new word, that I knew had to be correct due to the perp responses.

I initially had SPED in lieu of HIED for Hurried.

QOD: Alcohol is a very necessary element. It enables Parliament to do things at eleven at night that no sane person would do at eleven in the morning. ~ Geroge Bernard Shaw

Mainiac said...

Morning Argyle, CC and All,

Had to peck and poke around to finish this one with the same feeling as already said. Did some erasing also. I spelled Opal with an e and had Ritz for sunshine crackers. Never had a Hiho. I also never heard of Gorp. Got it via perps as its always been Trail Mix to me.

Gotta agree with Dennis in that tequila was my first thought for 10D....so I wrote in shot??.

JD, I'll bet those boys have a good time together!

Thanks for the write up Argyle!

Have a great Tuesday!

Dudley said...

Hello Puzzlers - Not a sparkling theme, but the theme answers have more in common than just "key". They all rhyme.

Grumpy 1 said...

Good morning,all. Thanks, Argyle for the great write-up. GORP was a total unknown, but perps rescued me.

I thought the theme expanded to include the last two sylables... four different ways to spell AH KEY.

SHORT AND STOCKY GEORGE PATAKI
ROLLER HOCKEY with a ROCKIE
The puzzle was fun,
not quite a speed run
But the theme was rather Schlockie.

HeartRx said...

Good Morning Argyle, C.C. et al.

Great write-up, Argyle, considering what you had to work with. Well, as others have hinted, this one left me cold. And I have to disagree with Dudley on this one (sorry!!). The entries just don't rhyme. How do you pronounce "Pataki"? Not as in stocky, hockey or rockie, fer sure!

I would have liked to see Jabberwocky fit in here somehow...it would have added a tiny bit of sparkle to an otherwise boring puzzle. Or at least walkie talkie, which would have fit…

Enough rant...The best thing about this one was coming here and seeing the adorable pics of JD’s sons. CUTE! But, I’m going back and forth on the YORKIE pics –awwww, puppies and kids in the same day? Sweeeet…

Have a great day, everyone!

HeartRx said...

Sorry JD - I meant GRANDsons, of course! (I still think they're adorable.)

Argyle said...

I can't swear it's correct but usually, around here, it is Geo. Pa-tack-ee.

Dudley, wouldn't any set of words ending in the same sound be considered as rhyming?

Husker Gary said...

Good Morning All, I had bloggus interruptus yesterday. My good friend across the street got me out of bed at 7 am telling me she had fallen and thought she had broken her leg. After I scrambled into sweat pants I ran over to her locked house, ran back to get our key and returned to find the door open as she had scooted on her rear end to let me in. Her foot was about 20 degrees sideways to where it should have been and she was in great pain. She had been walking downstairs carrying school books and brushing her teeth at the same time and fell and “did the splits”. A call to 911 brought the EMT’s and a fire truck to our quiet little neighborhood and everyone started poking their heads out to see what was going on.

She is back home now with lots of metal in her right leg just above her ankle and will be there for the next 3 months. At least as a teacher she has great insurance and more than enough sick leave pay to last for the balance of the school year!

I then had a tee time, helped Joann clean the windows, mowed my friend’s lawn and THEN did the puzzle and read yesterday’s blog. I hope today is calmer!

Husker Gary said...

Musings
-Nice write-up Argyle!
-I don’t recall having consumed any GORP or hearing ENYA or seeing NEO or having HIED anywhere but all came easily enough
-I told my injured neighbor that I felt so sorry for her but as is said in golf, “You have to play it where it LIES.”
-I wonder if APU EKEs out a living in Cwd Puzzles
-Doesn’t it make you proud to see foul-mouthed rappers like Lil Kim in our main stream culture? Search for her lyrics at your own peril.
- Family Feud hosts subsequent to Richard Dawson didn’t quite cut it!
-Chuck Yeager had the right stuff when he broke the MACH I barrier.
-One thing my uncle told me in Tijuana was stick to bottle Pepsi and don’t drink the tap water!
-Ritz? Nope – HIHO!
-Great looking kids JD! Grandson has his school concert at 7 tonight in Lincoln and I know they won’t be doing any Lil Kim tunes!

Grumpy 1 said...

I've heard Pataki pronounced as Puh tacky and Puh tahky. A little research says that the first is preferred. However, the name is Hungarian, and the pronunciation guides indicate that a non-accented A would be an 'awe' sound, which is much closer to the sound represented in today's theme.

kazie said...

Mostly easy despite names today. I knew OPAL way before CW experience since it was my mother's birthstone. But never having played golf, due to there not being any leftie clubs available when the opportunity arose to learn the game at school, I had TEE, which then became LEE after ORACLE appeared. I figured the wind must be a factor.

I don't differentiate the sounds of -ie, ee, or -y endings.

This seemed more like a themeless to me, since I never noticed any similarities.

Argyle does a great job every time!

Dudley said...

Hmm, I didn't realize my rhyming claim would be controversial. I probably haven't heard Pataki's name said aloud as often as a New Yorker would, but in my memory it sure does rhyme with stocky.

More to the point, it's a reasonable guess that the constructor thought so too.

kazie said...

JD,
Those are really cute kids!

The Yorkies look cute too, but I can't help thinking of them as constantly yapping, like our two neighbors' dogs, which perform every time anyone else moves in the 'hood if they are outside.

Husker,
Sounds like you had an unimaginable day yesterday. May today be a 1,000 times better!

I've never seen HIHOs, wanted Ritz, but waited and WAGged the eventual answer.

If pronounced as in Grumpy's suggestion (puh-tacky) that name reminds me of Lake Pukaki in NZ, which I first saw on a bus tour in 1966. When DH and I were on our way here in 1974, we tried to find it and couldn't (hitch-hiking has limitations). As a result, spent 3 days staying in a tiny trailer waiting for it to stop raining and get a ride with a local who offered to get us back to civilization.

Argyle said...

If the constructor's goal was to get rhymes there would be no need to use four different spellings. That is why I felt the theme was homophonic endings.

Iraqi and cay are options, too.

Dudley said...

I'm presuming the constructor's intent was to do just that: come up with four rhyming words with dissimilar spellings.

I sure hope he chimes in!

Argyle said...

Am I wrong in thinking if they end in the same sound then of course they are rhymes?

Grumpy 1 said...

If the 'key' sound with different spellings is the key to the theme, we can also throw in yankee and quay (unless you're referring to a person with the last name of Quay).

Spitzboov said...

Good morning Argyle and all.

Hand up for SHORT AND STOCKY; came right up since I had the 'ocky' ending in place. Theme was OK, but it was not needed to finish. No searches needed. Unknown GORP was gotten from the perps. For us NY residents, PATAKI was a gimme. Thought of 'epsilon' first at 47d but HOCKEY indicated OMICRON. Good Tuesday level workout.

Have a good day.

Dudley said...

Argyle - I guess it depends whether there is a rule someplace that says rhyming words have to have different first letters. I am certainly no authority!

Splynter said...

Hi There~!

Love the roller hockey, but have to agree that the referential cluing was a bit "off" - while the constructor does refer to the sport being played on skates, the use of the word in the puzzle is the verb, not the noun.

Gotta say, I re-read the puzzle after finishing, and I thought the "whole" answer was a rhyme-scheme, not just the -key ending - as I think of him as George Puh TOCK ey.

My brother works for the state- I'll have to ask him.

My mother is into her third month after a broken foot, Gary - a long slow process of doing nothing til it heals - and now that she can put weight on it, she does - and it hurts like hell ~!


Splynter

Splynter said...

Hi Again ~!

Argyle, just saw yesterday's sno cat reference - Thanks for an out and out laugh ~!

It's raining so hard here, it's practically dark.

Splynter

creature said...

Good Morning C.C., Argyle and all,

Argyle, your write-up is my all-time fav- exceptional, smooth and ,of course, non- egocentric!
Thanks, for Randy Travis. I forgot how much I love him.

Dan, your puzzle was a little more challenging than yesterday’s; I enjoyed your rhyming theme and you had some interesting fill. Yet it had a perfunctory flavor about it that made me feel someone was trying to pull the wool over my eyes- spelling and pronunciation.. There’s only so many “Really”s ? allowed per puzzle.

Great, Grumpy!

I actually see JD’s sense of humor and love of life in those dear children.

Have a nice day everyone.

kazie said...

When I broke my ankle in 2005, there was a period of 4 weeks with no weight, then 3 weeks (if I'm remembering these time periods correctly) with only partial weight and finally full weight with care, and physical therapy. I still have the screws and plate in place, and it feels stronger than the uninjured one most of the time. It doesn't swell as often now, but that ankle looks permanently slightly thicker than the other one, and predicts snowstorms pretty well. My insurance was workers' comp through our school district.

carol said...

Hi gang,

I guess I'm the 'odd' one of the group today. I found this offering difficult at best! I stumbled all over the top part...I think part of it was just brain fog. 10A TOYS...I stared at the T--S for the longest time and could not think of anything...sigh.

I never knew the letter Y was spelled WYE.

JD - such cute little boys!!! I can just imagine all the fun they will have together as the years go by.

GORP????? I never would have figured that out. After I saw it, I remembered (too late) seeing it before. What a ugly word for something a person would eat...I think the same thing about MUESLI...Yuk!!

HeartRx said...

I think my Bahhhhh-ston accent is what threw me a curve on this one. I can see that regional differences in pronunciation probably have an effect on the enjoyment of the theme in this one.

For me, it just wasn't quite consistent.

fermatprime said...

Hi all,

Nice work, Argyle, as usual! Cute puzzle, Dan.

This one went faster than yesterday's for me. No trouble with the rhyming.

Learned EDINA. Confused by clue for ROLLER HOCKEY, but it quickly filled itself in as I do both directions at once.

Off to have Lifeline Screening. Anyone else do this?

Locker-room from yesterday said...

WH: Your reply made me do a spit-take...funny stuff. I also found it interesting that three of the most "thinking with their gonads" guys were the responders!

All three of you seem to be great intellects...I enjoy what you write, most of the time...so I DO read it.

Bill G. said...

I liked the puzzle just fine, maybe because I could finish it with no Googling and no red letters. I first thought of Tritt for 66A but of course it didn't fit.

I came across a CD of the Mills Brothers and was playing it in the car. Such old-fashioned enjoyable music for me. I found myself singing along to Cab Driver.

Do any of you watch Tremé on HBO? It's about New Orleans after Katrina. I like the characters and the music. The dialog is tough for me though. The sound quality could be better so it's hard to understand some of the dialog because of the sound and the local accents.

Clear Ayes said...

Good Morning All, we're back from our long weekend visiting with GAH's brothers and sister in So CA. We enjoyed it, but I was rather surprised at how tired we are today.

Bleary eyes this morning, so I was happy the Tuesday puzzle wasn't difficult. I remembered GORP appearing in some past puzzle and DICTA filled in via perps.

I was a big Seinfeld fan, so with CK in place from the perps, SHORT and STOCKY came easily.

I don't have any lightbulb opinion about Dan Schoenholz's intentions for his theme endings. As Dennis said, "I kept thinking there was more to it than just the phonetic 'key' ending."...but, maybe not.

Argyle, I really liked the HIHO link. The lady in the ad reminded me of a Minnie Pearl version of the Gerber Baby.

JD, it is difficult to get cuter than those three.

Jeannie, belated Happy Birthday!

windhover said...

LRFY,
No Problem. Always happy to entertain. You didn't specify your gender, but either way, you know one brain is not enough. Dennis' bathtub joke is, fortunately, true.

Chickie said...

Hola Everyone, An easy puzzle for me today with the exception of the NW corner. For some reason I had forgotten Axis as the Allies' opposition so I put in foes. I had to give up there and do the rest of the puzzle before coming back to the first corner. A good hard whack with the v-8 can solved the Axis problem.

Gorp came easily as that was what we called our trail snack while back-packing.

Argyle, thanks for the writeup. I've always like Randy Travis' voice. I ended up listening to a couple more songs. A nice way to start my morning.

JD, those boys have grown so much! They are getting cuter every day.

I wanted my Tiajuana treat to be Dos XX's, but it wouldn't fit. Darn. Carol, I'll share one with you next time we see each other.

Chickie said...

Husker, may your day be a LOT less stressful today. I'm sorry to hear about your neighbors' accident. She is lucky to have a neighbor like you to call upon in an emergency.

Pack Rat Day says it all. I've a huge mess in my den right now. I'm cleaning out old paper files and have a huge box to shred, and I've just begun to weed out old tax forms, insurance forms, bank statements, etc. etc. etc. Why do we think we need to keep everything forever? I've gone to the 7 year rule. Hopefully that will help my kids when they have to clean out the rest someday!

Jayce said...

Hello everybody. Well gosh, I liked the puzzle today. It gave me more smiles per centimeter than I can recall for while now. While "Bath's bathroom" was an awesome clue yesterday, I chuckled gleefully at "Bloody Mary stalk" today, and smiled mightily at "Bloody at the steakhouse." I guess I am in a bloody good mood today or something. Maybe I'm still glowing from yesterday's sea monkey experience. Oh, and Carol, to answer your question from yesterday: all of the above. Them sea monkeys are complex, multi-faceted little suckers.

Lots of discussion about what comprises a rhyme today. I can't define it, but I know one when I read one. Hear here!

Argyle, I admire you a lot, too. Thanks for your consistency and commitment.

Best wishes to you all.

Jayce said...

fermatprime, I confess I do not even know what Lifeline Screening is. Maybe some day, when I grow up, I'll need 'em, whatever they are. Do they involve sea monkeys?

The Mamas and the Papas made wonderful music. Such rich harmonies! "California Dreamin" is a classic. It's not often that voices blend and mesh so well together.

Coincidentally, my wife and I listened to Beethoven's Eroica symphony on Sunday. Amazing what sound cathedrals that guy could construct out of a simple sequence of notes!

john28man said...

If the LA Times puzzle is supposed to get more dificult as the week progresses, I shutter to see those of the rest of this week.

lois said...

Good morning Argyle, CC, et al., Excellent job, Argyle. You are phenomenal!

I never knew 'gorp' but I like how it's situated above 'amor' and 'menu'.. in my world that's a virtual smorgasbord of delights (incl the 'short and stocky')-esp when one includes 'taco' & 'toys'
in 'a row' near by...things so 'cara' to 'ones' 'randy' self. There 'otter' be a law...at least some 'dicta' ...on stopping the 'lie' that 'celery' only stalks at midnight. Guess that 'yokes' on them. I drink bloody mary's around the clock and I always get stalked.

Enjoy your day.

lois said...

forgot: JD those babies are absolutely adorable. You are one lucky, blessed lady. Better you than me for keeping up with them when they get older. They are beautiful!

Lemonade: meant to tell you too that your family is gorgeous! High tide at the gene pool for all of you. Thanks for the eye candy.

Jeannie said...

Well I never did really get the theme, but that’s okay as I was able to finish the puzzle with minimal red letter help, and one visit to the g-spot for Mehmet Okur and was able to come up with Turk. He’s a tall drink of water! I have never watched a Matrix movie so wouldn’t have gotten Neo, and having never watched the Simpsons, would never have gotten Apu.
Gorp??? I’ve never heard of it. Probably because I am not a big trail mix fan. Another one you don’t see very often is “hied”. Is the old saying, “I high-tailed it out of there” really supposed to be “I hied tailed it out of there?

Omicron was also “Greek” to me. See what I did there:)

JD, those Grandson’s of yours sure are cuties. I bet once the little one gets his legs they will be a handful and a half!

HuskerGary, I can picture you tripping into your sweats and hied tailing it over there then back home again realizing you forgot the key. It’s nice to have a good neighbor.

creature said...

Among things that hit my funny bone today...

Hahtool, QOD- LOL

Funny Folks:

Lois, "Bloody Mary's all day long....."

Carol,"What an ugly word..."

Funny Stuff.

Clear Ayes said...

According to Merriam-Webster, rhyme is defined as "a : correspondence in terminal sounds of units of composition or utterance (as two or more words or lines of verse) b : one of two or more words thus corresponding in sound". I think that makes STOCKY, PATAKI, HOCKEY and ROCKIE rhymers with the extra "oomph" that they all correspond via the same "KEE" final sound.

Bill G. We haven't watched Treme. We'll have to give it a try.

Right now I'm reading "A Confederacy of Dunces". A lot of the dialog is written as New Orleans (don't say New OrLEENS!) Yat.

When GAH and I were visiting New Orleans we ordered sandwiches for lunch and were asked if we wanted them "dressed". The waitress had to explain that she was asking if we wanted lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise and so on.

Lois@1:07, Wow, a memory flash of Celery Stalks At Midnight. :o) Look at Lawrence jivin'!

Unknown said...

Argyle, great job on the blog today!
Today's puzzle was more or less an easy one. A bunny sloper is what I am now calling the easier ones, since I never have skied I can claim a "speed run".
We haven't had any new additins to the moron list in a while. I loved reading the ones everyone told me about. Keep them coming! Hearing that messing-up words isn't just a southern thing, makes me laugh!
Tata!

carol said...

CA: Had to laugh at YAT...I love southern 'things'!

Mom Speaks Out: I have a list of southern names that I gathered from the many novels I have read that were set in various southern locations. I have shared some of them on the blog but some are worth an encore:
GUMP, DOVE, DORSEY, RUPERT, TROUT, HARLEY, BOOLIE, DIMICK, FLEET. There are also the brothers: CLIVE, CLEET, CLYDE and CLOIYTUS (I understand those boys have a sister :))
I know these do not fit into your Moron List but the still make me chuckle.

Avg Joe said...

Oh no! Lawrence Welk!!

There's a little known video circulating around YouTube that I have to believe is probably the biggest joke ever pulled on Lancie. Hear it for yourself.

It's evidently for real. Somehow I don't think anybody on the show got it.

Anonymous said...

For those of you who weren't Girl Scouts:

GORP

Good Old Raisins and Peanuts

That's How Granny Said It said...

Mom speaks out, not a "morons' list", but more of a regional "misheard list". Be kind, because two of the following came from today's blog comments. Add 'shutter' when it should be 'shudder', 'hied tailing' when it should be 'hightailing' and 'heading down the pipe', when it should be 'heading down the pike'.

windhover said...

Joe:
My family watched LW religiously, mainly because at one point during the run of the show, the drummer was (supposedly) a former shipmate of my Dad.
I'm betting everyone except LW knew what was going down, but he was sure right in calling it a "modern spiritual". And I'll bet there was hell to pay when/if he found out.
Thanks, that was a good one.

Avg Joe said...

WH, I had to endure that show every Saturday night as a kid, and it left me permanently twisted. My Dad loved it, and that was that.

I suppose you could be right that everyone else was aware of the joke.....Myron Floyd could barely keep a straight face. Still, in retrospect, it's a hilarious piece of Americana.

Jeannie said...

@That’s how Granny said it, I was making a joke, a play on words. Hied means “hurry”, I know it’s “hightail” it out of there.

@Avg Joe, I know it’s voila!, but if you have read the blog very long you know how I excel at French. I stand by “wallah”!

Avg Joe said...

Jeannie, I certainly wasn't picking on you. I was only pointing out that the conversation probably had it's roots in that intentional misspelling. It just kind of took off from there.

Jayce said...

I like malapropisms, too.

carol said...

LMAO at the LW clip...makes me wonder if any of them 'got it'. My folks loved that show, 'bless their hearts'!! :)

Anon (2:30) Thank you for the 'meaning' of GORP. Doesn't sound so bad now.

Granny: Another one I hear a lot is "He/she has a tough road to hoe" I wonder if the people who say that have ever tried to HOE and ROAD...that would be tough!!!

Grumpy 1 said...

Fermatprime, regarding LifeLine screening (for those not familiar, it's a mobile unit that will do ultrasound scans for aortic aneurysms, peripheral artery disease, carotid artery blockage. Bone density, cholesterol level and maybe a few other tests, all for a very low price of a few hundred dollars. Usually no insurance accepted.) I had a doctor at Cleveland Clinic that told me his experience was that the results he saw were comparable to hospital lab results costing thousands. Another cardiologist said he thought such tests should be conducted in a more "clinical" setting, but had no data to back up his statement.

I've used them for routine screenings and felt it was worth the money spent. If a doctor is already suspicious of something and wants confirmation, AND insurance is available to pay, then a more advanced set of labs would be my choice.

Husker Gary said...

Jeannie, yes my attempt to HIE across the street was stressful. I just kept taking a mental inventory to make sure I had everything covered that I needed to stay street legal and to not lock myself out. My good friend is 48 yrs old and a trifle overweight and so trying to get her out to a car by myself was out of the question. The EMT’s were former students of hers and mine and very professional. The only thing I noticed is that they put in a morphine needle with bare hands. Is that normal?

Larry Welk would spin in his grave if he knew what the verb toke meant. Jon Stewart showed a clip of Mike Huckabee singing along with Ted Nugent last weekend on his show on on the Nugent standare Cat Scratch Fever which contains a line about stroking something that is a euphemism for a cat . I’ll bet Mike had no idea either as he sang along!

treefrog said...

Fairly easy puzzle today. Don't know where I pulled Pataki from (and you don't have to tell me).Mamas and the Papas were one of my favorites.
I too had to endure LW every week. Gag a maggot!! He used to play at one of the casinos in Reno every summer. The whole crew would be there. Lennon Sisters, band, whoever. I'm glad I wasn't forced into that one.
Catch you all tomorrow.

creature said...

"Amazing what sound cathedrals that guy could construct out of a simple sequence of notes!"


Jayce,what a stupendous sentence!
The best I have ever read on this blog!

{I can't believe I'm noting this, but I simply can't pass this up.}

windhover said...

Husker:
Hard to see how Huck could not know. It isn't even a double entendre if he actually knows the lyrics. Ah, those Arkansas governors; they're such dogs when it comes to the kittys.

And, I guess this is as good a time (and place) to announce that, like Huck and Trump, I have decided not to seek the Presidency. After long deliberation and a talk with my political advisors (three Border Collies and a Pyrenees), it seems that I'm just not ready for the campaign grind. It also seems that many of the other candidates either a) don't own dogs, b) don't consult them, or c) their dogs won't tell them the obvious truth.
Nothing worse than a lying dog.

Seldom Seen said...

Argyle mentioned how YORKIE added to the theme but has anyone noticed that NIKE does also?

The other day someone was commenting on the proper uses of lie and lay...

I think Dan Schoenholz got it right with 25A Golfer's Concern: LIE. Oh, wait, did he forget about Tiger. Maybe LAY would be more of a concern for that golfer...

creature said...

Only if he lied about a lay.

Clear Ayes said...

Moron's list: In addition to the words themselves, there are pronunciation issues. For example, is it EYE-ran or IR-ron Iraq or Iran? If you like Christiane Amanpour, you'd go with one and Jim Lehrer fans will go with another. Neither one of them is a dope.

My dear departed Oklahoma born mother-in-law came down firmly in the EYE-ran and EYE-rack camp. She also pronounced the language "EYE-talian". I guess she thought the country was EYE-taly. Old habits die hard and we never had the heart to correct her.

Windhover, Charley the schipperke had checked the possible candidates for us (our motto around here is "Let the dog do it.") and was ready to give you his endorsement. I guess he jumped the gun (not easy for a 12 year old dog).

windhover said...

Comment of the day contest is over.
Creature wins.
Hands down. Head, too.

Jayce said...

Creature, well done! And thank you.

Anonymous said...

What about: Go lay down, sweetheart.
I`m going to lay on the couch a while. (One would only hope they lay an even dozen!)

And what about being "yolked unequally?"

Seldom Seen said...

Creature:

That softball was lobbed up there for everyone. I thought Dennis or Windhover or even Lois would hit it.

But our sweet little Creature?

Awesome...you hit it out of the park!

Lemonade714 said...

well drat, if I did not make it clear, Lois, JD et al, JD your babies are beautiful, and babies are wonderful little creatures/ enjoy every minute.

I agree with Argule over hte homophones, but this discussion my drive me to become homophonic.

JD said...

Good afternoon Argyle, C.C. and all,

Second go at this; classroom computer wouldn't send out :(

Argyle, another fine job getting me through words I did not know: gorp, dicta, apu, nast, eroica, edina, and Mr. Pataki. Hope he did a better job than Ahnold..a big oops for him.

At 1st I thought this was really hard, but the perps did the trick.
There were lots that made me smile.

I got a bark collar for my dog years ago, the kind that contained a citrus spray.As soon as it went on, my other dog barked and it sprayed poor Jackson in his face. I'll never forget the look in his face.

Lemonade, love your avatar photo.

Thanks for all the compliments; each one is so very special.They really have brought so much joy into my life.I do feel blessed. Every Sunday the house gets a little bit louder.

creature said...

Thanks, guys.

Bill G. said...

I was sorry to hear about Harmon Killebrew. I remember when he was the first 'Bonus Baby' for the hapless Washington Senators; 'First in war, first in peace and last in the American League.' He was such a good baseball player and decent human being, he must have been very popular in Minnesota too.

Another little puzzle for you guys:
Write an item from the given category in the spaces so that spaces with a ? mark, spell another item in that category. For an example, in the category U. S. State: **??????, the orginal word is ARKANSAS and the ??s marks spell out KANSAS.

Continent: ?*?****??
Greek letters: *?*??
Chemical element: *?*??**?
Country: ??**??*
Country: ***????**
European capital city: ???**?

dodo said...

Hi, all,

Just lost my 20 lines!

Things I must repeat: Frematprime, I had the Lifeline scans about 5 years ago. At that time it was $100 and I think they didn't do as many as Grumpy says they do now. I don't remember any blood tests but I do know there was a bone density, and the one for aortal aneurysm. Can't remember what else. I'd be interested in knowing what it costs now, and what they do.

JD, I could eat those babies! What fun and what a darling trio!
Do you get them all three at a time? Which two are the brothers?

We do have a bunch of handsome offspring in this crowd, don't we? If I ever get competent in posting pix, I'll put in mine, but they are way past the cuddly stage.

I hope this one doesn't get lost.

Spitzboov said...

Australia
delta


Berlin

dodo said...

This one was a bit harder than yesterday's and like the rest of you, not as fun. Hand up for 'teen ' before 'thee', 'sped before 'hie', and more that I can't remember. 'Gorp' I remember my kids calling it many years ago.

Marge said...

Hi all,
I thought this puzzle was interesting. I got most of it before I looked at the blog.

Gorp was a new word but I don't eat Trail mix because I don't like raisons so it came with the perps.

Carol- I don't know for sure but I wonder if 'tough road to hoe' did't start out as 'tough row to hoe,'

Lifeline screening comes to Baraboo several times a year. My DH and I had it done once. The results are sent to the doctor.
They seem to do a good job.

Last night I watched 'Freedom Riders' on PBS, a two hour program on the people who rode down to the south to desegregate the south. They were attacked and beaten, the bus was burn, I had forgotten how bad it was. I'm sure it will be on again.

Have a good evening all,
Marge

dodo said...

Has anyone else seen John Cleese's "Alert to Threats in 2011 Europe?" My daughter brought over a copy last night and I was able to scan and email it to some friends but haven't been able to
repeat the procedure....Well, maybe they were delivered and Outlook didn't tell me. We'll see. It's hilarious, as you can imagine.

Anonymous said...

Nitrogen - Iron

Jazzbumpa said...

Hi gang -

Really late to the party today. Underwhelmed by the puzzled.

Overwhelmed by JD's little guys.

Delighted by the first LW clip. Not a great song, but that band could swing when they weren't playing claptrap. The solos are really well done.

The Champagne bubble lady Norma Zimmer passed on a few days ago at age 87. On a somewhat happier note, MAry Tyler Moore as recovering from successful brain surgery.

Gotta run. We'e habing pie.

Cheers!
JzB

Jazzbumpa said...

I should slow down and type better.

Lo siento,
JzB

dodo said...

element: hydrogen

country: Germany

country: Lithuania

Bill G. Do you make these up or do you have a book of brain teasers?

Bill G. said...

Dodo, I write a puzzle column for a local newspaper that runs every two weeks. This one came from a Mainer friend, Shawn Kennedy. Others I make up or find on the Internet. Without the Internet, I would have run out of ideas years ago.

carol said...

Creature: You are a HOOT! Great line!!

Marge, I am so sorry about my post on the 'Row/Road to Hoe. I meant to put in the correct phrase but I really do have brain freeze today...toooooo many misspellings lately. I hang my head in shame.

On a lighter note, I had an interesting experience while playing shuffleboard (the table game,in a bar) this afternoon.
My 3 cousins and I play each Tuesday and today we were challenged by 2 guys. We said we would play them and we picked which 2 of the 4 of us would meet the challenge. I was one of the 2. Just as we were ready to slide the first puck (weight) down the board, one of the guys said "by the way, we are professionals"....Geez, talk about a shock. Anyway, we came very close (within 2) points of beating them. We felt good :)

Unknown said...

Thanks for the additions to "the list"!
Keep those cards and letters comin'!
Creature! Who would have guessed? LOL

Bill G. said...

Hey Carol, congratulations on your good showing at shuffleboard this afternoon. Coming in second place is very good. That's what I've often told myself.

Spitzboov said...

Ireland ➙ Iran

eddyB said...

hello.

Feeling very sad right now. Just heard the we lost another HS classmate.

Re: Season final on Castle. Kate can't be dead. No show without her.

HUTCH said...

Trail mix-- Bread and peanut butter. Also for dinner too.

HUTCH said...

Trail mix-- Bread and peanut butter. Also for dinner too.

JD said...

The puzzle may have been dull, but the commentary has kept me laughing.

WH, I am disappointed in your dogs' decision; did they talk to the sheep?

Dodo, Grady and Truman are brothers,the book ends. Cameron is the baby; I take care of him one day a week. Sometimes I have all 3 of them when my girls have errands, but they have pretty great daddies too.

Abejo said...

Good Evening, folks. Thank you, Dan S. for an interesting puzzle. Thank you Argyle for the swell write-up.

Well, this one started fine. I had few problems. Got the theme answers easily. Even though I thought ROLLERHOCKEY being tied to Ice Skates was a little off.

My big problem was the SW corner. For some reason I misspelled SECEDE, as CECEDE. I know better, but at the time I did not double check it. So, that corner was DNF. I had a tough day and really could not focus consistently.

I thought GORP was interesting. I ate that stuff for two summers while hiking the Appalachian Trail with my mother. She made it and brought it for us to eat while hiking. Supposed to be full of energy. It did have chocolate in it. Wasn't bad. My mother hiked the entire 2100 miles of the Trail in 14 years, finishing in her 80th year. I helped her the last two summers because she could not find a partner to hike with her. I was retired and was, therefore, elected. I really enjoyed the experience. The parts we did were in Maine and New Hampshire. Rugged.

See you tomorrow.

Abejo

Argyle said...

Appalachian Trail map

Note the copyright in the NW corner.

Abejo said...

Argyle: That is amazing. How did you ever find that ? GORP.com You must stay up all night.

Abejo

Argyle said...

I was looking for a trail map. I have looked into GORP.com yet myself.